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What do you eat?
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581 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 1:23am
Subject: What do you eat?  nearoanoke
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    Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy food. I guess
that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your typical diet, can
you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and nutritious.

Thanks,
Near
 
582 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 10:12am
Subject: Re: What do you eat?  obsidian9999
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    Hello Near,

I've been an avid yoga practicioner for about twenty years (possibly
more if you count the spontaneous yoga of my first four years of life!)
and while I have learned tremendous respect for the yoga tradition, I
have learned to be skeptical at times because I think it is not always
right in its broad proscriptions or prescriptions. I think it is like
Western Medicine in that way, or any body of knowledge.

One particular thing is that because of Bio-individuality, the nature
and extent of different peoples reactions to things is different, and
even for a particular person, it can vary over time.

I have found no negative effect on my meditation from spicy foods.
Neither have I found a negative effect from the much maligned garlic,
onions and mushrooms.

Some people do report a downward pull to the senses from garlic in
particular, but it is often experienced as positive and grounding
rather than tamasic. I can't say I noticed much from garlic, but I am
extraordinalarily sensitive to certain other herbs.

I don't present these ideas to you in a trivial or offhand manner. In
fact, as a very young boy, I had an extreme prejudice against
garlic, onions and mushrooms; asking me to eat them was like asking
me to eat slugs! I thought they were dirty and nasty, as if I was
carrying over a prejudice from a past life as a yogi. But time and
experience has taught me that if they are negative in any way for me,
I cannot detect it.

In fact I have found a very strong benefit from certain mushrooms,
such as Reishi. By the way, I found Reishi particularly interesting
because, while it invigorates, it seemed to do it in a way which did
not diminish my mediation to any extent, and may even have empowered
it.

So what do yo think, Near?

-David


--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy food. I guess
> that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your typical diet,
can
> you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and nutritious.
>
> Thanks,
> Near
 
 
 
 583 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 11:28am
Subject: Re: What do you eat? -- Any problems with Spices, Garlic, Mushrooms?  obsidian9999
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    P.S.

If any other people have found from experience that spices, garlic,
onions or mushrooms are detrimental to their yoga, I would be very
interested in hearing about their experience. Not just that guru so-
and-so said it please :) But real experience, if possible not
stimulated by prejudice.

Of course, please discount digestive problems due to excess etc.
I'm talking about reasonable, balanced consumption of above
substances.

It would be interesting to see for how many or for what fraction of
people this is true.....




--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Near,
>
> I've been an avid yoga practicioner for about twenty years
(possibly
> more if you count the spontaneous yoga of my first four years of
life!)
> and while I have learned tremendous respect for the yoga
tradition, I
> have learned to be skeptical at times because I think it is not
always
> right in its broad proscriptions or prescriptions. I think it is
like
> Western Medicine in that way, or any body of knowledge.
>
> One particular thing is that because of Bio-individuality, the
nature
> and extent of different peoples reactions to things is different,
and
> even for a particular person, it can vary over time.
>
> I have found no negative effect on my meditation from spicy foods.
> Neither have I found a negative effect from the much maligned
garlic,
> onions and mushrooms.
>
> Some people do report a downward pull to the senses from garlic in
> particular, but it is often experienced as positive and grounding
> rather than tamasic. I can't say I noticed much from garlic, but
I am
> extraordinalarily sensitive to certain other herbs.
>
> I don't present these ideas to you in a trivial or offhand manner.
In
> fact, as a very young boy, I had an extreme prejudice against
> garlic, onions and mushrooms; asking me to eat them was like
asking
> me to eat slugs! I thought they were dirty and nasty, as if I
was
> carrying over a prejudice from a past life as a yogi. But time and
> experience has taught me that if they are negative in any way for
me,
> I cannot detect it.
>
> In fact I have found a very strong benefit from certain mushrooms,
> such as Reishi. By the way, I found Reishi particularly
interesting
> because, while it invigorates, it seemed to do it in a way which
did
> not diminish my mediation to any extent, and may even have
empowered
> it.
>
> So what do yo think, Near?
>
> -David
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@y...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy food. I
guess
> > that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your typical
diet,
> can
> > you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and
nutritious.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Near
 
 
 
 584 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 0:06pm
Subject: Re: What do you eat? -- Any problems with Spices, Garlic, Mushrooms?  azaz932001
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    Hi
I haven't had any problems with specific foods at all. I have
noticed that my meditation is better the less I eat, so I suppose the
eat lightly advice works well for me.

Blessings R.C.

>
>
>
> P.S.
>
> If any other people have found from experience that spices,
garlic,
> onions or mushrooms are detrimental to their yoga, I would be very
> interested in hearing about their experience. Not just that guru
so-
> and-so said it please :) But real experience, if possible not
> stimulated by prejudice.
>
> Of course, please discount digestive problems due to excess etc.
> I'm talking about reasonable, balanced consumption of above
> substances.
>
> It would be interesting to see for how many or for what fraction of
> people this is true.....
>
>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Near,
> >
> > I've been an avid yoga practicioner for about twenty years
> (possibly
> > more if you count the spontaneous yoga of my first four years of
> life!)
> > and while I have learned tremendous respect for the yoga
> tradition, I
> > have learned to be skeptical at times because I think it is not
> always
> > right in its broad proscriptions or prescriptions. I think it is
> like
> > Western Medicine in that way, or any body of knowledge.
> >
> > One particular thing is that because of Bio-individuality, the
> nature
> > and extent of different peoples reactions to things is
different,
> and
> > even for a particular person, it can vary over time.
> >
> > I have found no negative effect on my meditation from spicy
foods.
> > Neither have I found a negative effect from the much maligned
> garlic,
> > onions and mushrooms.
> >
> > Some people do report a downward pull to the senses from garlic
in
> > particular, but it is often experienced as positive and
grounding
> > rather than tamasic. I can't say I noticed much from garlic,
but
> I am
> > extraordinalarily sensitive to certain other herbs.
> >
> > I don't present these ideas to you in a trivial or offhand
manner.
> In
> > fact, as a very young boy, I had an extreme prejudice against
> > garlic, onions and mushrooms; asking me to eat them was like
> asking
> > me to eat slugs! I thought they were dirty and nasty, as if I
> was
> > carrying over a prejudice from a past life as a yogi. But time
and
> > experience has taught me that if they are negative in any way for
> me,
> > I cannot detect it.
> >
> > In fact I have found a very strong benefit from certain
mushrooms,
> > such as Reishi. By the way, I found Reishi particularly
> interesting
> > because, while it invigorates, it seemed to do it in a way
which
> did
> > not diminish my mediation to any extent, and may even have
> empowered
> > it.
> >
> > So what do yo think, Near?
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy food. I
> guess
> > > that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your typical
> diet,
> > can
> > > you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and
> nutritious.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Near
 
 
 
 585 From: "zarembadavid" <rudra@graffiti.net>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 5:49pm
Subject: Re: What do you eat? -- Any problems with Spices, Garlic, Mushrooms?  zarembadavid
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    Garlic - Toxic Shock !


Stop taking garlic. It kills tens of thousands of brain cells and de-
synchronises the left and right brains waves.

The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates
the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for
higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our
horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest manufacturer
of ethical EEG feedback equipment.
We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead on
an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their progress. "Well,
what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there was
some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things that
they wouldn't touch garlic before classes or we were wasting their
time, their money and my time.

I guess some of you who are pilots or have been in flight tests...I
was in flight test engineering in Doc Hallan's group in the 1950's.
The flight surgeon would come around every month and remind all of
us: "Don't you dare touch any garlic 72 hours before you fly one of
our airplanes, because it'll double or triple your reaction time.
You're three times slower than you would be if you'd not had a few
drops of garlic."

Well, we didn't know why for 20 years later, until I owned the Alpha-
Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and
found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves.
So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that
it's a poison. You can rub a clove of garlic on your foot - and you
can smell it shortly later on your wrists. So it penetrates the body.
This is why DMSO smells a lot like garlic: that sulphone hydroxyl ion
penetrates all the barriers including the corpus callosum in the
brain.
Any of you who are organic gardeners know that if you don't want to
use DDT, garlic will kill anything in the way of insects.
Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good for
you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as the
mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine sulphate in
the drugstore and give it to their babies to put them to sleep.
If you have any patients who have low-grade headaches or attention
deficit disorder, they can't quite focus on the computer in the after-
noon, just do an experiment - you owe it to yourselves. Take these
people off garlic and see how much better they get, very very
shortly. And then let them eat a little garlic after about three
weeks. They'll say "My God, I had no idea that this was the cause of
our problems." And this includes the de-skunked garlics, Kyolic, some
of the other products.
Very unpopular, but I've got to tell you the truth.

Source: From a lecture by Dr. Robert C Beck, DSc, given at the Whole
Life Expo, Seattle, WA, USA, in March 1996, Nexus Magazine.


http://pwsa.org/sp_garlic.htm





-----------------------------------------


--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
> I haven't had any problems with specific foods at all. I have
> noticed that my meditation is better the less I eat, so I suppose
the
> eat lightly advice works well for me.
>
> Blessings R.C.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > P.S.
> >
> > If any other people have found from experience that spices,
> garlic,
> > onions or mushrooms are detrimental to their yoga, I would be
very
> > interested in hearing about their experience. Not just that guru
> so-
> > and-so said it please :) But real experience, if possible not
> > stimulated by prejudice.
> >
> > Of course, please discount digestive problems due to excess
etc.
> > I'm talking about reasonable, balanced consumption of above
> > substances.
> >
> > It would be interesting to see for how many or for what fraction
of
> > people this is true.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999"
<obsidian9999@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Near,
> > >
> > > I've been an avid yoga practicioner for about twenty years
> > (possibly
> > > more if you count the spontaneous yoga of my first four years
of
> > life!)
> > > and while I have learned tremendous respect for the yoga
> > tradition, I
> > > have learned to be skeptical at times because I think it is not
> > always
> > > right in its broad proscriptions or prescriptions. I think it
is
> > like
> > > Western Medicine in that way, or any body of knowledge.
> > >
> > > One particular thing is that because of Bio-individuality, the
> > nature
> > > and extent of different peoples reactions to things is
> different,
> > and
> > > even for a particular person, it can vary over time.
> > >
> > > I have found no negative effect on my meditation from spicy
> foods.
> > > Neither have I found a negative effect from the much maligned
> > garlic,
> > > onions and mushrooms.
> > >
> > > Some people do report a downward pull to the senses from garlic
> in
> > > particular, but it is often experienced as positive and
> grounding
> > > rather than tamasic. I can't say I noticed much from garlic,
> but
> > I am
> > > extraordinalarily sensitive to certain other herbs.
> > >
> > > I don't present these ideas to you in a trivial or offhand
> manner.
> > In
> > > fact, as a very young boy, I had an extreme prejudice against
> > > garlic, onions and mushrooms; asking me to eat them was like
> > asking
> > > me to eat slugs! I thought they were dirty and nasty, as if
I
> > was
> > > carrying over a prejudice from a past life as a yogi. But time
> and
> > > experience has taught me that if they are negative in any way
for
> > me,
> > > I cannot detect it.
> > >
> > > In fact I have found a very strong benefit from certain
> mushrooms,
> > > such as Reishi. By the way, I found Reishi particularly
> > interesting
> > > because, while it invigorates, it seemed to do it in a way
> which
> > did
> > > not diminish my mediation to any extent, and may even have
> > empowered
> > > it.
> > >
> > > So what do yo think, Near?
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy food. I
> > guess
> > > > that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your typical
> > diet,
> > > can
> > > > you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and
> > nutritious.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Near
 
 
 
 586 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 7:03pm
Subject: Re: What do you eat? -- Any problems with Spices, Garlic, Mushrooms?  obsidian9999
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    > Source: From a lecture by Dr. Robert C Beck, DSc, given at the
Whole
> Life Expo, Seattle, WA, USA, in March 1996, Nexus Magazine.
>

Thankyou for your response. That lecture seems to be more alarmism
than quality science.

Rather than make such off-hand claims, I'll delve into it a
little. I'll notice for example the following:

The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates
> the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison
for
> higher-life forms and brain cells.

This seems nasty, but what psychoactive substance does not cross
the blood-brain barrier? Don't substances in your chamomile or mint
tea do the same, making you sleepy or perking you up?

The claim that it contains a substance that is a poison is dramatic
but vague unfortunately. It's one of those things that can seem
right, but says something wrong. So many (probably nearly all)
plant substances that have therapeutic properties are 'toxins' if
you look at them from another angle. A lot depends on dose.

> We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead
on
> an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their
progress. "Well,
> what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there
was
> some garlic in my salad dressing!"

The writer provides two anecdotes and airs a claim that
garlic 'doubles or triples' your reaction time, which would put
garlic-users in the category of drunken drivers. That does not fly.


> Well, we didn't know why for 20 years later, until I owned the
Alpha-
> Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and
> found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves.
> So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that
> it's a poison.

Now, there's where the poor quality of the research shows through
most clearly. After a strong claim that garlic doubles or triples
your reaction time, it should be very easy to prove this in a
laboratory and make a publication splash with it. One might think
that is what they would have sought to bring out in the Stanford
study. What does the Stanford study produce? The claim that, sure
enough, it is a poison. Which means nothing, for the reasons I
said.



--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "zarembadavid" <rudra@g...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Garlic - Toxic Shock !
>
>
> Stop taking garlic. It kills tens of thousands of brain cells and
de-
> synchronises the left and right brains waves.
>
> The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion
penetrates
> the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison
for
> higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our
> horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest
manufacturer
> of ethical EEG feedback equipment.
> We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead
on
> an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their
progress. "Well,
> what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there
was
> some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things that
> they wouldn't touch garlic before classes or we were wasting their
> time, their money and my time.
>
> I guess some of you who are pilots or have been in flight
tests...I
> was in flight test engineering in Doc Hallan's group in the
1950's.
> The flight surgeon would come around every month and remind all of
> us: "Don't you dare touch any garlic 72 hours before you fly one
of
> our airplanes, because it'll double or triple your reaction time.
> You're three times slower than you would be if you'd not had a few
> drops of garlic."
>
> Well, we didn't know why for 20 years later, until I owned the
Alpha-
> Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and
> found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves.
> So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that
> it's a poison. You can rub a clove of garlic on your foot - and
you
> can smell it shortly later on your wrists. So it penetrates the
body.
> This is why DMSO smells a lot like garlic: that sulphone hydroxyl
ion
> penetrates all the barriers including the corpus callosum in the
> brain.
> Any of you who are organic gardeners know that if you don't want
to
> use DDT, garlic will kill anything in the way of insects.
> Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good for
> you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as the
> mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine sulphate
in
> the drugstore and give it to their babies to put them to sleep.
> If you have any patients who have low-grade headaches or attention
> deficit disorder, they can't quite focus on the computer in the
after-
> noon, just do an experiment - you owe it to yourselves. Take these
> people off garlic and see how much better they get, very very
> shortly. And then let them eat a little garlic after about three
> weeks. They'll say "My God, I had no idea that this was the cause
of
> our problems." And this includes the de-skunked garlics, Kyolic,
some
> of the other products.
> Very unpopular, but I've got to tell you the truth.
>
> Source: From a lecture by Dr. Robert C Beck, DSc, given at the
Whole
> Life Expo, Seattle, WA, USA, in March 1996, Nexus Magazine.
>
>
> http://pwsa.org/sp_garlic.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> > I haven't had any problems with specific foods at all. I have
> > noticed that my meditation is better the less I eat, so I
suppose
> the
> > eat lightly advice works well for me.
> >
> > Blessings R.C.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S.
> > >
> > > If any other people have found from experience that spices,
> > garlic,
> > > onions or mushrooms are detrimental to their yoga, I would be
> very
> > > interested in hearing about their experience. Not just that
guru
> > so-
> > > and-so said it please :) But real experience, if possible
not
> > > stimulated by prejudice.
> > >
> > > Of course, please discount digestive problems due to excess
> etc.
> > > I'm talking about reasonable, balanced consumption of above
> > > substances.
> > >
> > > It would be interesting to see for how many or for what
fraction
> of
> > > people this is true.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999"
> <obsidian9999@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Near,
> > > >
> > > > I've been an avid yoga practicioner for about twenty years
> > > (possibly
> > > > more if you count the spontaneous yoga of my first four
years
> of
> > > life!)
> > > > and while I have learned tremendous respect for the yoga
> > > tradition, I
> > > > have learned to be skeptical at times because I think it is
not
> > > always
> > > > right in its broad proscriptions or prescriptions. I think
it
> is
> > > like
> > > > Western Medicine in that way, or any body of knowledge.
> > > >
> > > > One particular thing is that because of Bio-individuality,
the
> > > nature
> > > > and extent of different peoples reactions to things is
> > different,
> > > and
> > > > even for a particular person, it can vary over time.
> > > >
> > > > I have found no negative effect on my meditation from spicy
> > foods.
> > > > Neither have I found a negative effect from the much
maligned
> > > garlic,
> > > > onions and mushrooms.
> > > >
> > > > Some people do report a downward pull to the senses from
garlic
> > in
> > > > particular, but it is often experienced as positive and
> > grounding
> > > > rather than tamasic. I can't say I noticed much from
garlic,
> > but
> > > I am
> > > > extraordinalarily sensitive to certain other herbs.
> > > >
> > > > I don't present these ideas to you in a trivial or offhand
> > manner.
> > > In
> > > > fact, as a very young boy, I had an extreme prejudice
against
> > > > garlic, onions and mushrooms; asking me to eat them was
like
> > > asking
> > > > me to eat slugs! I thought they were dirty and nasty, as
if
> I
> > > was
> > > > carrying over a prejudice from a past life as a yogi. But
time
> > and
> > > > experience has taught me that if they are negative in any
way
> for
> > > me,
> > > > I cannot detect it.
> > > >
> > > > In fact I have found a very strong benefit from certain
> > mushrooms,
> > > > such as Reishi. By the way, I found Reishi particularly
> > > interesting
> > > > because, while it invigorates, it seemed to do it in a way
> > which
> > > did
> > > > not diminish my mediation to any extent, and may even have
> > > empowered
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > So what do yo think, Near?
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke"
<nearoanoke@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy
food. I
> > > guess
> > > > > that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your
typical
> > > diet,
> > > > can
> > > > > you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and
> > > nutritious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Near
 
 
 
 588 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 7:57pm
Subject: Re: What do you eat? -- Any problems with Spices, Garlic, Mushrooms?  nearoanoke
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    Hi David & RC and others,

Thanks for your responses. I dont feel food can make big of a
difference otherwise yogani would have surely mentioned it in AYP.

Lighter food is better can be the guideline to go by.

Love,
Near

--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> > Source: From a lecture by Dr. Robert C Beck, DSc, given at the
> Whole
> > Life Expo, Seattle, WA, USA, in March 1996, Nexus Magazine.
> >
>
> Thankyou for your response. That lecture seems to be more alarmism
> than quality science.
>
> Rather than make such off-hand claims, I'll delve into it a
> little. I'll notice for example the following:
>
> The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion
penetrates
> > the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison
> for
> > higher-life forms and brain cells.
>
> This seems nasty, but what psychoactive substance does not cross
> the blood-brain barrier? Don't substances in your chamomile or
mint
> tea do the same, making you sleepy or perking you up?
>
> The claim that it contains a substance that is a poison is dramatic
> but vague unfortunately. It's one of those things that can seem
> right, but says something wrong. So many (probably nearly all)
> plant substances that have therapeutic properties are 'toxins' if
> you look at them from another angle. A lot depends on dose.
>
> > We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead
> on
> > an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their
> progress. "Well,
> > what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there
> was
> > some garlic in my salad dressing!"
>
> The writer provides two anecdotes and airs a claim that
> garlic 'doubles or triples' your reaction time, which would put
> garlic-users in the category of drunken drivers. That does not fly.
>
>
> > Well, we didn't know why for 20 years later, until I owned the
> Alpha-
> > Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and
> > found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves.
> > So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that
> > it's a poison.
>
> Now, there's where the poor quality of the research shows through
> most clearly. After a strong claim that garlic doubles or triples
> your reaction time, it should be very easy to prove this in a
> laboratory and make a publication splash with it. One might think
> that is what they would have sought to bring out in the Stanford
> study. What does the Stanford study produce? The claim that,
sure
> enough, it is a poison. Which means nothing, for the reasons I
> said.
>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "zarembadavid" <rudra@g...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Garlic - Toxic Shock !
> >
> >
> > Stop taking garlic. It kills tens of thousands of brain cells and
> de-
> > synchronises the left and right brains waves.
> >
> > The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion
> penetrates
> > the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison
> for
> > higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to
our
> > horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest
> manufacturer
> > of ethical EEG feedback equipment.
> > We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead
> on
> > an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their
> progress. "Well,
> > what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there
> was
> > some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things
that
> > they wouldn't touch garlic before classes or we were wasting
their
> > time, their money and my time.
> >
> > I guess some of you who are pilots or have been in flight
> tests...I
> > was in flight test engineering in Doc Hallan's group in the
> 1950's.
> > The flight surgeon would come around every month and remind all
of
> > us: "Don't you dare touch any garlic 72 hours before you fly one
> of
> > our airplanes, because it'll double or triple your reaction time.
> > You're three times slower than you would be if you'd not had a
few
> > drops of garlic."
> >
> > Well, we didn't know why for 20 years later, until I owned the
> Alpha-
> > Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and
> > found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves.
> > So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that
> > it's a poison. You can rub a clove of garlic on your foot - and
> you
> > can smell it shortly later on your wrists. So it penetrates the
> body.
> > This is why DMSO smells a lot like garlic: that sulphone hydroxyl
> ion
> > penetrates all the barriers including the corpus callosum in the
> > brain.
> > Any of you who are organic gardeners know that if you don't want
> to
> > use DDT, garlic will kill anything in the way of insects.
> > Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good
for
> > you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as
the
> > mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine
sulphate
> in
> > the drugstore and give it to their babies to put them to sleep.
> > If you have any patients who have low-grade headaches or
attention
> > deficit disorder, they can't quite focus on the computer in the
> after-
> > noon, just do an experiment - you owe it to yourselves. Take
these
> > people off garlic and see how much better they get, very very
> > shortly. And then let them eat a little garlic after about three
> > weeks. They'll say "My God, I had no idea that this was the cause
> of
> > our problems." And this includes the de-skunked garlics, Kyolic,
> some
> > of the other products.
> > Very unpopular, but I've got to tell you the truth.
> >
> > Source: From a lecture by Dr. Robert C Beck, DSc, given at the
> Whole
> > Life Expo, Seattle, WA, USA, in March 1996, Nexus Magazine.
> >
> >
> > http://pwsa.org/sp_garlic.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > I haven't had any problems with specific foods at all. I have
> > > noticed that my meditation is better the less I eat, so I
> suppose
> > the
> > > eat lightly advice works well for me.
> > >
> > > Blessings R.C.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S.
> > > >
> > > > If any other people have found from experience that spices,
> > > garlic,
> > > > onions or mushrooms are detrimental to their yoga, I would
be
> > very
> > > > interested in hearing about their experience. Not just that
> guru
> > > so-
> > > > and-so said it please :) But real experience, if possible
> not
> > > > stimulated by prejudice.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, please discount digestive problems due to excess
> > etc.
> > > > I'm talking about reasonable, balanced consumption of above
> > > > substances.
> > > >
> > > > It would be interesting to see for how many or for what
> fraction
> > of
> > > > people this is true.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999"
> > <obsidian9999@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Near,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been an avid yoga practicioner for about twenty years
> > > > (possibly
> > > > > more if you count the spontaneous yoga of my first four
> years
> > of
> > > > life!)
> > > > > and while I have learned tremendous respect for the yoga
> > > > tradition, I
> > > > > have learned to be skeptical at times because I think it is
> not
> > > > always
> > > > > right in its broad proscriptions or prescriptions. I think
> it
> > is
> > > > like
> > > > > Western Medicine in that way, or any body of knowledge.
> > > > >
> > > > > One particular thing is that because of Bio-individuality,
> the
> > > > nature
> > > > > and extent of different peoples reactions to things is
> > > different,
> > > > and
> > > > > even for a particular person, it can vary over time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have found no negative effect on my meditation from spicy
> > > foods.
> > > > > Neither have I found a negative effect from the much
> maligned
> > > > garlic,
> > > > > onions and mushrooms.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some people do report a downward pull to the senses from
> garlic
> > > in
> > > > > particular, but it is often experienced as positive and
> > > grounding
> > > > > rather than tamasic. I can't say I noticed much from
> garlic,
> > > but
> > > > I am
> > > > > extraordinalarily sensitive to certain other herbs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't present these ideas to you in a trivial or offhand
> > > manner.
> > > > In
> > > > > fact, as a very young boy, I had an extreme prejudice
> against
> > > > > garlic, onions and mushrooms; asking me to eat them was
> like
> > > > asking
> > > > > me to eat slugs! I thought they were dirty and nasty, as
> if
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > carrying over a prejudice from a past life as a yogi. But
> time
> > > and
> > > > > experience has taught me that if they are negative in any
> way
> > for
> > > > me,
> > > > > I cannot detect it.
> > > > >
> > > > > In fact I have found a very strong benefit from certain
> > > mushrooms,
> > > > > such as Reishi. By the way, I found Reishi particularly
> > > > interesting
> > > > > because, while it invigorates, it seemed to do it in a
way
> > > which
> > > > did
> > > > > not diminish my mediation to any extent, and may even have
> > > > empowered
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > So what do yo think, Near?
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke"
> <nearoanoke@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being from southern part of india, I eat lot of spicy
> food. I
> > > > guess
> > > > > > that can be detrimental to my practices. What is your
> typical
> > > > diet,
> > > > > can
> > > > > > you please post your diets here. AYP suggests light and
> > > > nutritious.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Near