443 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:40pm
Subject: Re: Amaroli obsidian9999
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I don't know. Urine in the bladder should have no dirt in it.
Occasionally some dead cells from the bladder wall perhaps, but a
tiny, tiny amount. Being a solution, the urine itself should
not 'settle'. Perhaps we can improve on the intuitions of the
Rishis, as other rishis do?
Or perhaps they speak from experience of which I am unaware. But my
own experience has been that I have noticed no difference at all
between middle and late urine.
Regards,
-David
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@y...> wrote:
> Possibly the first third will have some of the
> 'heavier' elements in it...as we have just arisen, and
> have just walked to the bathroom to urinate and
> practice amaroli.. dirt(heavier particles) in a glass
> of water settles to the bottom...(the urethra coming
> out of the bottom of the bladder). Thus I percieve
> this as one of the most likely reasons why the first
> third is disregarded. (I also agree with the prior
> statement that this first 3rd flushes clean the
> urethra...)
>
> Similarly, viscous substances in a glass of liquid
> rise to the top and float on the top of the fluid,
> thus this last third may be containing elements
> unwanted due to this principle.
>
> I think to not have 'enough' is better than to take in
> some that might not be as 'beneficial' for us...it is
> our waste after all, right? The Rishis seem to
> percieve quite well, right?
>
> Some Considerations...
>
>
>
> --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > I do suspect that after the first little bit that
> > the urine
> > > doesn't change much in quality. It probably
> > doesn't really make
> > much
> >
> > Yes, the urine mixes freely in the bladder,
> > doesn't it?
> >
> > Passing a certain amount first cleans out the
> > urethra so the part you
> > drink is not contaminated with whatever was in the
> > urethra. When
> > urine is collected medically, they do the same
> > thing. I can't see
> > any reason to reject the "last third" and if I am
> > short, I don't.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, victor yj
> > <vic@y...> wrote:
> > > Good that it is mentioned. It is supposed to be
> > "midstream"
> > > I do suspect that after the first little bit that
> > the urine
> > doesn't change much in quality. It probably doesn't
> > really make much
> > difference but that is how it is traditionally
> > taught.
> > > I have also been taught that one should eat a low
> > protein
> > vegetarian diet to do Amoroli. That is why I had not
> > done it is some
> > time as I am not vegetarian. After talking to a
> > number of people who
> > do Amaroli regularly I have decided that it is
> > probably better to do
> > Amaroli even if not vegetarian than not to do it.
> > These non
> > vegetarian practitioners have noticed no ill effects
> > and are very
> > enthusiastic about it actually.
> > >
> > > Adam West <adamwest1@i...> wrote:
> > > Hey Ashwin,
> > >
> > > I second that! :-)
> > >
> > > In kind regards,
> > >
> > > Adam.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Group-
> > >
> > > I don't know if this has been mentioned, but
> > this
> > > ancient practice of Amaroli is recommended to be
> > ONLY
> > > the 'middle' one-third of the first urination
> > upon
> > > waking in the morning... this is straight from
> > Dr. Lad
> > > of the Ayurvedic Institute...
> > >
> > > The first third and last third are to be
> > disregarded.
> > > Only the middle third of the stream is used.
> > Thus the
> > > volume will alter in relation to how much urine
> > the
> > > body makes on each nights cycle...
> > >
> > > Just a note...not sure if this had been
> > mentioned or
> > > not...
> > >
> > > Namaste-
> > > Ashwin
> > >
> > >
> > > --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Victor, I started over a month ago and I'm
> > finding
> > > > it great in many
> > > > ways (more energy, clarity, focus, you name
> > it).
> > > >
> > > > Randy, Target amount is around a cup per day
> > but
> > > > less is good
> > > > for many people. I had an exchange with
> > Yogani on
> > > > this and I
> > > > think he posted it. It's worth looking at.
> > > >
> > > > It became clear to me that I had to start with
> > > > really small
> > > > amounts, because I was feeling feverish on
> > even a
> > > > few
> > > > teaspoons.
> > > >
> > > > I got myself a dropper and started then on
> > three
> > > > drops. I found
> > > > adjustment to the dose occurred within about a
> > week,
> > > > and could
> > > > then double the amount. This brings me up to
> > 80
> > > > drops now
> > > > which is getting close to a teaspoonful.
> > > >
> > > > Everyone is different in level of sensitivity
> > to it,
> > > > so you might be
> > > > able to start with a full teaspoonful or even
> > more.
> > > > Try this
> > > > doubling thing every week. As the dose gets
> > higher
> > > > you'll
> > > > eventually have to stop doubling and/or will
> > notice
> > > > longer
> > > > adjustment time.
> > > >
> > > > I would say don't necessarily have a cup as a
> > > > target. Sometimes
> > > > less is more with amaroli and you'll find your
> > > > optimum with
> > > > experimentation.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com,
> > grantcln1@c...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I just started a week ago not sure on intake
> > > > amount and or
> > > > what feels right.
> > > > >
> > > > > Randy
> > > > >
> > > > > -------------- Original message
> > --------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Are any of you doing Amaroli?
> > > > > I have just started doing it again and it
> > seems to
> > > > be having a
> > > > > positive effect. Curious what others
> > experiences
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http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/444 From: Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: Amaroli ashwinjlsun
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The 'dirt' reference was just a metaphor...
I personally believe they percieve something we do
not.
--- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't know. Urine in the bladder should have no
> dirt in it.
> Occasionally some dead cells from the bladder wall
> perhaps, but a
> tiny, tiny amount. Being a solution, the urine
> itself should
> not 'settle'. Perhaps we can improve on the
> intuitions of the
> Rishis, as other rishis do?
>
> Or perhaps they speak from experience of which I am
> unaware. But my
> own experience has been that I have noticed no
> difference at all
> between middle and late urine.
>
> Regards,
>
> -David
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Ashwin Sun
> <ashwinjlsun@y...> wrote:
> > Possibly the first third will have some of the
> > 'heavier' elements in it...as we have just arisen,
> and
> > have just walked to the bathroom to urinate and
> > practice amaroli.. dirt(heavier particles) in a
> glass
> > of water settles to the bottom...(the urethra
> coming
> > out of the bottom of the bladder). Thus I percieve
> > this as one of the most likely reasons why the
> first
> > third is disregarded. (I also agree with the prior
> > statement that this first 3rd flushes clean the
> > urethra...)
> >
> > Similarly, viscous substances in a glass of liquid
> > rise to the top and float on the top of the fluid,
> > thus this last third may be containing elements
> > unwanted due to this principle.
> >
> > I think to not have 'enough' is better than to
> take in
> > some that might not be as 'beneficial' for us...it
> is
> > our waste after all, right? The Rishis seem to
> > percieve quite well, right?
> >
> > Some Considerations...
> >
> >
> >
> > --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I do suspect that after the first little bit
> that
> > > the urine
> > > > doesn't change much in quality. It probably
> > > doesn't really make
> > > much
> > >
> > > Yes, the urine mixes freely in the bladder,
> > > doesn't it?
> > >
> > > Passing a certain amount first cleans out the
> > > urethra so the part you
> > > drink is not contaminated with whatever was in
> the
> > > urethra. When
> > > urine is collected medically, they do the same
> > > thing. I can't see
> > > any reason to reject the "last third" and if I
> am
> > > short, I don't.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, victor yj
> > > <vic@y...> wrote:
> > > > Good that it is mentioned. It is supposed to
> be
> > > "midstream"
> > > > I do suspect that after the first little bit
> that
> > > the urine
> > > doesn't change much in quality. It probably
> doesn't
> > > really make much
> > > difference but that is how it is traditionally
> > > taught.
> > > > I have also been taught that one should eat a
> low
> > > protein
> > > vegetarian diet to do Amoroli. That is why I had
> not
> > > done it is some
> > > time as I am not vegetarian. After talking to a
> > > number of people who
> > > do Amaroli regularly I have decided that it is
> > > probably better to do
> > > Amaroli even if not vegetarian than not to do
> it.
> > > These non
> > > vegetarian practitioners have noticed no ill
> effects
> > > and are very
> > > enthusiastic about it actually.
> > > >
> > > > Adam West <adamwest1@i...> wrote:
> > > > Hey Ashwin,
> > > >
> > > > I second that! :-)
> > > >
> > > > In kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Adam.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Group-
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if this has been mentioned, but
> > > this
> > > > ancient practice of Amaroli is recommended
> to be
> > > ONLY
> > > > the 'middle' one-third of the first
> urination
> > > upon
> > > > waking in the morning... this is straight
> from
> > > Dr. Lad
> > > > of the Ayurvedic Institute...
> > > >
> > > > The first third and last third are to be
> > > disregarded.
> > > > Only the middle third of the stream is used.
> > > Thus the
> > > > volume will alter in relation to how much
> urine
> > > the
> > > > body makes on each nights cycle...
> > > >
> > > > Just a note...not sure if this had been
> > > mentioned or
> > > > not...
> > > >
> > > > Namaste-
> > > > Ashwin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Victor, I started over a month ago and
> I'm
> > > finding
> > > > > it great in many
> > > > > ways (more energy, clarity, focus, you
> name
> > > it).
> > > > >
> > > > > Randy, Target amount is around a cup per
> day
> > > but
> > > > > less is good
> > > > > for many people. I had an exchange with
> > > Yogani on
> > > > > this and I
> > > > > think he posted it. It's worth looking
> at.
> > > > >
> > > > > It became clear to me that I had to start
> with
> > > > > really small
> > > > > amounts, because I was feeling feverish
> on
> > > even a
> > > > > few
> > > > > teaspoons.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got myself a dropper and started then on
> > > three
> > > > > drops. I found
> > > > > adjustment to the dose occurred within
> about a
> > > week,
> > > > > and could
> > > > > then double the amount. This brings me up
> to
> > > 80
> > > > > drops now
> > > > > which is getting close to a teaspoonful.
>
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Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:48pm
Subject: Re: Amaroli obsidian9999
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> I personally believe they percieve something we do
> not.
If they did, it wouldn't be the first time.
OK, you've
convinced me. I think I'll take your advice on this. Thanks.
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@y...> wrote:
> The 'dirt' reference was just a metaphor...
>
> I personally believe they percieve something we do
> not.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know. Urine in the bladder should have no
> > dirt in it.
> > Occasionally some dead cells from the bladder wall
> > perhaps, but a
> > tiny, tiny amount. Being a solution, the urine
> > itself should
> > not 'settle'. Perhaps we can improve on the
> > intuitions of the
> > Rishis, as other rishis do?
> >
> > Or perhaps they speak from experience of which I am
> > unaware. But my
> > own experience has been that I have noticed no
> > difference at all
> > between middle and late urine.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Ashwin Sun
> > <ashwinjlsun@y...> wrote:
> > > Possibly the first third will have some of the
> > > 'heavier' elements in it...as we have just arisen,
> > and
> > > have just walked to the bathroom to urinate and
> > > practice amaroli.. dirt(heavier particles) in a
> > glass
> > > of water settles to the bottom...(the urethra
> > coming
> > > out of the bottom of the bladder). Thus I percieve
> > > this as one of the most likely reasons why the
> > first
> > > third is disregarded. (I also agree with the prior
> > > statement that this first 3rd flushes clean the
> > > urethra...)
> > >
> > > Similarly, viscous substances in a glass of liquid
> > > rise to the top and float on the top of the fluid,
> > > thus this last third may be containing elements
> > > unwanted due to this principle.
> > >
> > > I think to not have 'enough' is better than to
> > take in
> > > some that might not be as 'beneficial' for us...it
> > is
> > > our waste after all, right? The Rishis seem to
> > > percieve quite well, right?
> > >
> > > Some Considerations...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I do suspect that after the first little bit
> > that
> > > > the urine
> > > > > doesn't change much in quality. It probably
> > > > doesn't really make
> > > > much
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the urine mixes freely in the bladder,
> > > > doesn't it?
> > > >
> > > > Passing a certain amount first cleans out the
> > > > urethra so the part you
> > > > drink is not contaminated with whatever was in
> > the
> > > > urethra. When
> > > > urine is collected medically, they do the same
> > > > thing. I can't see
> > > > any reason to reject the "last third" and if I
> > am
> > > > short, I don't.
> > > >
> > > > -D
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, victor yj
> > > > <vic@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Good that it is mentioned. It is supposed to
> > be
> > > > "midstream"
> > > > > I do suspect that after the first little bit
> > that
> > > > the urine
> > > > doesn't change much in quality. It probably
> > doesn't
> > > > really make much
> > > > difference but that is how it is traditionally
> > > > taught.
> > > > > I have also been taught that one should eat a
> > low
> > > > protein
> > > > vegetarian diet to do Amoroli. That is why I had
> > not
> > > > done it is some
> > > > time as I am not vegetarian. After talking to a
> > > > number of people who
> > > > do Amaroli regularly I have decided that it is
> > > > probably better to do
> > > > Amaroli even if not vegetarian than not to do
> > it.
> > > > These non
> > > > vegetarian practitioners have noticed no ill
> > effects
> > > > and are very
> > > > enthusiastic about it actually.
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam West <adamwest1@i...> wrote:
> > > > > Hey Ashwin,
> > > > >
> > > > > I second that! :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > In kind regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Group-
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if this has been mentioned, but
> > > > this
> > > > > ancient practice of Amaroli is recommended
> > to be
> > > > ONLY
> > > > > the 'middle' one-third of the first
> > urination
> > > > upon
> > > > > waking in the morning... this is straight
> > from
> > > > Dr. Lad
> > > > > of the Ayurvedic Institute...
> > > > >
> > > > > The first third and last third are to be
> > > > disregarded.
> > > > > Only the middle third of the stream is used.
> > > > Thus the
> > > > > volume will alter in relation to how much
> > urine
> > > > the
> > > > > body makes on each nights cycle...
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a note...not sure if this had been
> > > > mentioned or
> > > > > not...
> > > > >
> > > > > Namaste-
> > > > > Ashwin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Victor, I started over a month ago and
> > I'm
> > > > finding
> > > > > > it great in many
> > > > > > ways (more energy, clarity, focus, you
> > name
> > > > it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Randy, Target amount is around a cup per
> > day
> > > > but
> > > > > > less is good
> > > > > > for many people. I had an exchange with
> > > > Yogani on
> > > > > > this and I
> > > > > > think he posted it. It's worth looking
> > at.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It became clear to me that I had to start
> > with
> > > > > > really small
> > > > > > amounts, because I was feeling feverish
> > on
> > > > even a
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > teaspoons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got myself a dropper and started then on
> > > > three
> > > > > > drops. I found
> > > > > > adjustment to the dose occurred within
> > about a
> > > > week,
> > > > > > and could
> > > > > > then double the amount. This brings me up
> > to
> > > > 80
> > > > > > drops now
> > > > > > which is getting close to a teaspoonful.
