856 From: "Danny" <danny@metalhosts.com>
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:20am
Subject: Inner Eyes II mysticaldan
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Thank You allf or your views on this. I am absorbing all that is being said.
The Vicks method seems intresting and i think i might start with that.
My basic problem starts with maybe not only having trbl visualisation but
feeling also. So i am trapped both sides. Not being able to feel the
perinieum makes it more difficult. Its like if i cant feel how do i focus
there? If I look at my thumb i can feel something there so i look and i
concentrate on my thum till i become a surface there and then i feel
something on the thumb. With the Perineum there is nuthin at all.
When u say feel energy going up and down. Maybe cold upside and hot
downside. How do i do that when i cannot feel anything. The stupid brain
says whats there? nuthin? Sometimes in cases of intense emotion when i
concentrate on my heart chakra i can feel tingles running up my spine and
the hair standing up on my entire body but to recall that is almost
impossible and so is to maintain that. Maybe its just an adrenaline rush
caused by intense emotions.
How does one *imagine* feeling it?? Yes I can remember the feeling of
coldness there if i apply Vicks or anything hot there but is that all?
I am not trying too hard at all. In fact i get a little frustrated that even
the simplest of things is so difficult. SO i am just asking abt in case i am
not doing anything right or maybe there is a way of doing that that i am not
aware of.
As of now i just sit and try to feel something rising from the bottom part
of my body since i cant pinpoint my perineum and trying to move up my body.
Now its quite difficult to feel or imagine something midway. Maybe if i feel
my perineum i can start to just take it up from there inch by inch. I
suppose thats the right way to do it.
Love and Light
Dan
857 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:48am
Subject: Re: Inner Eyes II azaz932001
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <danny@m...> wrote:
>
> I am not trying too hard at all. In fact i get a little frustrated
that even
> the simplest of things is so difficult. SO i am just asking abt in
case i am
> not doing anything right or maybe there is a way of doing that that
i am not
> aware of.
>
Hello Dan
Stop worrying about it. If you are comfortable with the meditation
side of it everything else will sort itself out the meditation is the
most important bit. If you don't feel anything with the spinal
breathing at first that doesn't matter, as long as you have it in
your mind that you are going up and down your spine it is still
working. Sensations will come in time that's what I meant by trying
too hard. It took me ages to feel anything at all and then suddenly
there it was. Just read the lessons carefully and go step by step
don't start a new practice until you are totally comfortable with the
previous one and you will be all right. Worrying about it will only
produce stress and that makes the whole situation worse believe me I
have been there.
Blessings R.C.
858 From: "Dan" <danny@metalhosts.com>
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:47am
Subject: Re: Inner Eyes II mysticaldan
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Namaste Richard,
I think i understand what you say and i look no further.
What did u do? Think of me as a dank beginner in that case and please
tell me what to start with. I think i am right abt going back to
basics.
Thats what I am gonna do. I guess the start wud be to just sit and do
the I AM meditation and then after i am comfy with it move on to the
spinal breathing or shud i just go ahead and think abt the energy
moving up my spine irrespective of what i feel or not and then one
day i'll just start feeling it. I think that makes sense cause my
sensory system is rtight now too blocked to feel the subtle
sensations which shud come with time.
Love and Light
Dan
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <danny@m...> wrote:
> >
> > I am not trying too hard at all. In fact i get a little
frustrated
> that even
> > the simplest of things is so difficult. SO i am just asking abt
in
> case i am
> > not doing anything right or maybe there is a way of doing that
that
> i am not
> > aware of.
> >
> Hello Dan
>
> Stop worrying about it. If you are comfortable with the meditation
> side of it everything else will sort itself out the meditation is
the
> most important bit. If you don't feel anything with the spinal
> breathing at first that doesn't matter, as long as you have it in
> your mind that you are going up and down your spine it is still
> working. Sensations will come in time that's what I meant by trying
> too hard. It took me ages to feel anything at all and then suddenly
> there it was. Just read the lessons carefully and go step by step
> don't start a new practice until you are totally comfortable with
the
> previous one and you will be all right. Worrying about it will only
> produce stress and that makes the whole situation worse believe me
I
> have been there.
>
> Blessings R.C.
859 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2005 0:00pm
Subject: Re: Inner Eyes II azaz932001
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <danny@m...> wrote:
>
>
> Namaste Richard,
> I think i understand what you say and i look no further.
>
> What did u do? Think of me as a dank beginner in that case and
please
> tell me what to start with. I think i am right abt going back to
> basics.
HI Dan I've only been doing AYP for 8 months myself so I'm a beginner
too. I think you've got it though, get really comfy with the
meditation before you add anything else. When I say that I don't
mean do the spinal breathing after the meditation, once you add the
spinal breathing you always do that before the meditation.
Yogani puts all this much better than I can. Read all the lessons
carefully and I am sure you will be OK.
Blessings R.C.
869 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Inner Eyes II obsidian9999
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> How does one *imagine* feeling it?? Yes I can remember the feeling of
coldness there if i apply Vicks or anything hot there but is that all?
Yes Dan, that is plenty good enough for now. Just 'remember' that feeling, a
few times. That can stand in for 'feeling it'.
All the aspects of yoga help each other. Meditation helps the mind-body
connection, so does asanas, so does this 'energy work' of feeling the
perineum.
You may find some aspect frustrating and feel that you can only do a very
primitive clunky version in the early stages. That is fine. Just let the frustration
go. Have faith/confidence. It will fill out in time.
Best regards,
-David
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <danny@m...> wrote:
>
> Thank You allf or your views on this. I am absorbing all that is being said.
> The Vicks method seems intresting and i think i might start with that.
>
> My basic problem starts with maybe not only having trbl visualisation but
> feeling also. So i am trapped both sides. Not being able to feel the
> perinieum makes it more difficult. Its like if i cant feel how do i focus
> there? If I look at my thumb i can feel something there so i look and i
> concentrate on my thum till i become a surface there and then i feel
> something on the thumb. With the Perineum there is nuthin at all.
>
> When u say feel energy going up and down. Maybe cold upside and hot
> downside. How do i do that when i cannot feel anything. The stupid brain
> says whats there? nuthin? Sometimes in cases of intense emotion when i
> concentrate on my heart chakra i can feel tingles running up my spine and
> the hair standing up on my entire body but to recall that is almost
> impossible and so is to maintain that. Maybe its just an adrenaline rush
> caused by intense emotions.
>
> How does one *imagine* feeling it?? Yes I can remember the feeling of
> coldness there if i apply Vicks or anything hot there but is that all?
>
> I am not trying too hard at all. In fact i get a little frustrated that even
> the simplest of things is so difficult. SO i am just asking abt in case i am
> not doing anything right or maybe there is a way of doing that that i am not
> aware of.
>
> As of now i just sit and try to feel something rising from the bottom part
> of my body since i cant pinpoint my perineum and trying to move up my
body.
> Now its quite difficult to feel or imagine something midway. Maybe if i feel
> my perineum i can start to just take it up from there inch by inch. I
> suppose thats the right way to do it.
>
>
> Love and Light
> Dan
