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Christi

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Different risings
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2008, 10:02:22 PM »
Hi Selfonlypath,

 
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Hi Christi,

Does deep meditation corresponds to the practice of lesson 13 ?



Yes, deep meditation is discussed by Yogani in lesson 13, but it is good also to read the following questions and answers to get a better light on how to do it.
Spinal breathing pranayama is discussed in lesson 39 and the following few lessons.

 
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I've never done Pranayama so far eventhough I've some experience via my own system to move up (via inhaling) or down (via exhaling) energy through the diverted route I experience.

In AYP spinal breathing (taken from Kriya Yoga) we also go up with the inbreath and down with the outbreath, so you should find it easy.

 
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Quieting the mind by meditation is indeed the most difficult thing for me but I feel trying for a while lesson 13.


Trying to make the mind quiet with meditation is not really a good idea, and is not the aim of deep meditation. It is too difficult, especially at the present time in the earths history. Instead, try to distinguish between what is real and what is not real. Silence is found not in the absense of thoughts, which arise naturally as a product of the mind, but it is a quality that surrounds everything. If you are using a mantra as in AYP deep meditation, you will be able to hear the silence both surrounding the mantra, and any thoughts or feelings that come up. Pay attention to the silence and you will see that it is vast and wide. It is ever-present, like the ocean beneath the waves.

Gradually thoughts will become less dominant in your awareness, but that is a by-product of resting in the silence that surrounds them, not a product of quitening the thoughts themselves.

Hope that helps.

Christi

selfonlypath

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2008, 05:12:41 PM »
I tell you what, it is the first time I really understand what is quiet and non dynamic meditation by reading lessons 13 up to 38 which are crystal clear in the explanations and examples.

Blessings for AYP digital university. [;)]

Albert
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selfonlypath

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2008, 11:55:14 PM »
Hello again,

I think this article about tantra versus neotantra might be one way to understand the problem of a vajra-nadi rising:
http://opendoor.nathorder.org/2006/03/02/on-neo-tantra/

Also, these guys make quite a strange business out of pure tantrik-yoga knowledge but the spirit of these 2 articles describes quite clearly a "dead end route" for a vajra-nadi rising:
http://www.umaatantra.com/tantra_articles/modern_tantra_1_092704.html
http://www.umaatantra.com/tantra_articles/modern_tantra_2_092904.html

Albert

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